DPL Season 2018-2019

Discussion in 'Development Academy' started by Desert Hound, Aug 27, 2018.

  1. Sweeper

    Sweeper Active Member

    SCDS is probably doing that because it is embarrassing their DPL teams did so bad in state cup (except for the 02 DPL team).
     
  2. Soccer Dad

    Soccer Dad Active Member

    It’s hard to sell DPL if you can’t beat ASL teams. Probably smart on their part to pull out Of state league. It’s easier to say your league is better if you’re not getting beat by the league you say is inferior
     
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  3. Who's saying DPL is a better league? Quite frankly I have not heard RSL or Del Sol say either, what I have heard is they want to play in both, and not once have I heard them disparage the other. The only ones I hear saying whats better and whats not is the people on this board. So what if they lost to some APL teams I have seen ECNL teams lose to teams they should not be losing to, and I don't hear anyone yammering on about that. It's pretty simple don't like the league don't play in it. Your player controls what they want to do. But from the outside looking in I think if your player isn't playing DA/ECNL then the DPL offers them a great opportunity by playing SO Cal teams on a regular basis and attending showcases that APL teams rarely ever go to. The league is expanding and that opportunity to play other teams now on the east coast is a whole lot better than playing the same APL teams over and over and over.
     
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  4. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Active Member

    The above is spot on. You get better by playing better teams. You get exposure that most APL teams don't because DPL requires their teams to go to some of the best showcases.

    If you had a choice of getting on just an APL team or a DPL team, take the DPL team (if you are thinking college and/or letting your kid experience the fun of being on a travel team and hanging with friends away from parents).

    The DPL coaches for sure on the RSL side are very good. Many if not all on the del Sol side are the same.
     
  5. Sweeper

    Sweeper Active Member

    There is only 1 decent DPL coach at Del Sol and that is Alan Watson. Ryan Marr is a joke. Matt Evans usually coaches 1 DPL team and he is the one of the main reasons all the 04 DA players left Del Sol to go to Rising!!!
     
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  6. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Active Member

    They left because of Cagle as coach. Without that happening you get 1-3 move at most.

    It was a unique situation.
     
  7. Sweeper

    Sweeper Active Member

    It's not a unique situation. When deciding what team is best for your player the biggest deciding factor is the coach. The club doesn't really matter and in this case the league doesn't matter either to parents if they are choosing Cagle/ECNL vs Evans/DA or DPL. Matt Evans is there to collect a paycheck not develop players.
     
  8. UpperV

    UpperV New Member

    Kelly Cagle is the reason all the girls moved to Phx Rising. It will be interesting to see if more try to come over in the upcoming season. They were unhappy with the current coaches.
     
  9. aginaz

    aginaz Active Member

  10. tjinaz

    tjinaz Active Member

    So about how much does DPL cost per year? Is it standard club fees plus all the travel? (5 or 6 out of state trips). If it is more than 5 or 6k don't know if it would be worth it. Money might be better putting into college fund and playing APL as chance for the scholarship is not that great. May be fun for a year to get the experience but not sure all kids like all the travel, plus the missing of school may hurt them scholastically.
     
  11. Sweeper

    Sweeper Active Member

    Training/team fees for most APL teams are about $2000-2300 plus any travel. DPL teams are $3000-3300 plus any travel. DPL travels a lot more than APL teams because DPL league games will be in So Cal/Las Vegas. DPL also has a showcase in Texas. No matter what league your kid plays in you should be putting money into a college fund because counting on a college scholarship for soccer is risky.

    In my personal opinion you are better off playing for a really good APL team that attends college showcases instead of playing on a DPL team.
     
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  12. tjinaz

    tjinaz Active Member

    Yea - 529 has been funding for awhile but.. an extra 3-4k would make a difference especially across a couple of years. Is it team or individual travel? Anyone have an estimate of what the travel cost for a DPL/ECNL team is? 5k would pay for a full year of Community College, 2 years is everything but tuition at ASU for a year.
     
  13. Sweeper

    Sweeper Active Member

    RSL/Utah Royals DA is the only ones that subsidize travel and they do team travel. Del Sol DA, DPL at both clubs and ECNL teams, the parents are responsible for getting their player to So Cal, Vegas, etc but then the players stay together in hotel rooms. There usually enough parents traveling that can take your player if you don’t go (but you need to pay for the airfare, or help pay for gas, etc).

    I think you are probably within a few hundred dollars of total cost between Del sol DA, ECNL and DPL total team costs. It mostly depends how many out of state games and showcases/tournaments the team attends. Utah Royals/RSL DA is much cheaper but they also carry very large rosters (up to 28 girls in some cases). Remember that club soccer is pay to play.

    If you are looking at reducing tuition costs, most AZ community colleges will give players full tuition scholarships if you play for the soccer team. If you want to get full or partial tuition scholarships at NAU, ASU, and U of A have your player focus on grades and invest in some good test prep to get the academic scholarships.
     
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  14. UpperV

    UpperV New Member

    ECNL Rising fees are approx $4500. This includes rooms and vans. Any flights are outside this cost.

    They do a few team travel trips a year. But most of the time the parents travel. There are approx 7 travel weekends. Plus the national tournament (if they make it). This year it will be in SC
     
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  15. tjinaz

    tjinaz Active Member

    Thanks for your replies. Guess we will cross that bridge when we come to it.
     
  16. Chap Bartholomew

    Chap Bartholomew New Member


    My understanding is that DPL teams do not have Club/team fees - those are covered (at least in part) by the USWNT - just as they are for GDA. The only fees are travel fees. But, that those can add up quickly with as much travel as DPL takes on.
     
  17. I think you might be confused. DPL does have a Club fee, Team Fees (Leagues, Tourneys, coach expenses, etc.), and Travel. No easy street for the DPL'rs.
     
  18. aginaz

    aginaz Active Member

    +1 DPL is very pricey. And there is lots of travel. But hey, you are a step away from DA so...:blackeye:
     
  19. tjinaz

    tjinaz Active Member

    This is why i think it is a tough call. You might be able to get to use DPL to get to DA but.. in the mean time you pay way more for a lesser experience. Question is .. Is DPL that much better for development than APL to justify the massive increase in cost? On a cost basis it would seem ECNL is more bang for your buck than DPL but not DA. Seeing a bunch of clubs doing Desert Conference. Think that is like DPL lite for clubs that don't have access to those leagues. Games in Utah, LV and Phx for top teams not in with higher leagues.

    http://events.gotsport.com/events/Default.aspx?eventid=73968
     
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