Arizona Premier League 2019 and beyond!

Discussion in 'Arizona Scene' started by aginaz, Jun 18, 2019.

  1. whatithink

    whatithink Active Member

    Rising were allowed to do that with their 05G team a couple of years ago, skipping U13. They then won the U14 APL as I recall. So there's precedent for it, but ASA has now reduced the number of teams to 6 in APL/SLs, so suddenly there's a significant lack of space.

    In contrast DelSol do not have an 08Gs team in any of the state leagues - pretty odd ... lots of recruiting to be done there I expect (cough ... CCV ... cough) :playful:
     
  2. GKdad

    GKdad Member

    I heard rumor that the SCDS already pillaged the 08 teams at CCV as last years head coach of the top team there (Joe Alessi) was assigned to the lower team this season and many of the players/parents on that top team were not very happy about it.

    Further, Arsenal's top 07 Pre-ECNL played in the 06 Division last season.
     
  3. aginaz

    aginaz Active Member

    Speaking of 2006 girls, and the reduction of teams and the auto-qualifiers....nothing is more screwy than this age group.

    With ASL1 being split into 2 divisions of 5 teams last year, you now have a "winner" of division 1B that wasn't even .500 last year - and they get declared co-champs and take an auto-qualifier spot in APL! LOL!!! Meanwhile FOUR teams in Division 1A finish with a better record than the "co-champs"!

    This might be the biggest indictment in this new and improved process of selecting APL teams...
     
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  4. Tiki-Taka-Freak

    Tiki-Taka-Freak Active Member

    What warranted this move to 6? Were there issues last year?
     
  5. whatithink

    whatithink Active Member

    So if you were CCV08 last year playing POS1 and now you are not in APL or SL, cna't think you'd be too happy.

    Arsenal played up SL1 and won it - they are a good team. No depth in girls though.
     
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  6. whatithink

    whatithink Active Member

    The problem is that Rising & Arsenal were ECNL last year and DelSol & RSL are DA this year. So most of the top talent is gone. That has a ripple effect weakening every division. Add in club politics to position their teams based on name and not team ability from U11 and you have a shit show.
     
  7. aginaz

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  8. aginaz

    aginaz Active Member

    Anyone know when these play-in games are happening?
     
  9. Tiki-Taka-Freak

    Tiki-Taka-Freak Active Member

    Probably at 1:00 or 2:00 in the afternoon on a Saturday in the middle of August. (lol)
     
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  10. GKdad

    GKdad Member

    I would guess they would have to be prior to the open league registration deadline...
     
  11. aginaz

    aginaz Active Member

    That would conflict with ODP tryouts! Lol
     
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  12. Tiki-Taka-Freak

    Tiki-Taka-Freak Active Member

    Is there a reason to have ODP anymore with all these ECNL, DA, and DPL leagues forming?
     
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  13. GKdad

    GKdad Member

    Yes, the ASA needs your money!!!
     
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  14. Tiki-Taka-Freak

    Tiki-Taka-Freak Active Member

    Yup!
     
  15. GKdad

    GKdad Member

    Further to that point; I am actually surprised that the ASA cut down the number of teams as the fee for APL/ASL is significantly higher than open leagues. While I believe the higher fees include ref fees it is still surprising.

    At the 06G level they have really made it clear politics over principles/results are the way in to the advanced leagues. Gotsoccer rankings can be looked at as flawed but teams get the rankings by getting results. My experience has been that teams that have a high ranking, usually prove on field that they have earned it. The AYSO United team ranked 4th, who won the silver bracket of the pres. cup OVER RSL-AZ Soutar 3-0 were declined, Soutar gets in ASL2. #8 Ranked Arizona FC declined, #10 Benfica declined (may have been declined on roster continuity rule if word on the street is correct.)

    While RSL-AZ Goucher got waitlisted and without an error in points being awarded for a tournament win which actually went to RSL- AZ Cooper (ASL2) they would be ranked in the low 30's....

    Further the PRFC Johnston team were an 05 team last year so they are new to the age group and walked right in...

    SMH
     
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  16. Tiki-Taka-Freak

    Tiki-Taka-Freak Active Member

    Win/Loss records and the degree of competition should be the main criteria on who goes where.
     
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  17. tjinaz

    tjinaz Member

    Seems like its some of that and heavy emphasis on Presidents cup results.
     
  18. aginaz

    aginaz Active Member

    RSL Soutar got in AND got waitlisted! Seriously, listed on both lists. D’oh!
     
  19. Tiki-Taka-Freak

    Tiki-Taka-Freak Active Member

    I remember the days when there was one league with multiple flights. Teams got relegated and promoted based on performance. Now we have POSOL, SL2, SL1, APL, ECNL, DPL, and DA. With all these leagues, it is more political than ever.
     
  20. aginaz

    aginaz Active Member

    Not so fast. The APL winner is the only guaranteed spot in FWRL (and the previous year's winner of FWRL if there is one). The State Cup winner is not. As a matter of fact, last year's 2004 State Cup winner (SC Del Sol) did NOT get into FWRL.

    And so far for 2019-2020 FWRL the following AZ 2005 teams have applied:

    AZ Olympia
    Tuzos
    RSL-AZ North Rideout
    RSL-AZ Southern AZ Haouaia
    SC Del Sol

    Should be interesting to see who gets chosen... My money is on RSL Rideout as the APL #2 but I can see an argument for Tuzos too. But it's anyone's game the way they run these things...
     

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